spockme Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 How should a sub express his dedication and love for his true Mistress? FSL John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabal Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 How should a sub express his dedication and love for his true Mistress? FSL John That is a philosophical question that cannot be answered with anything specific. It all depends on the full nature/parameters of the relationship between the particular Mistress and the particular sub. Each Mistress is different, as is each sub. At least that is my humble opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I agree, Cabal. Every top/mistress is different. Your expression of devotion should reflect that individual's personality, nature, likes, and preferences. A sub that has that intensity of worship should be able to know his Mistresses' desires or ways to please. The closer you are in the vehicle of expression you choose, the more your mistress will know your level of sacrifice. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiplash Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 spock, Of course it depends on the relationship but if one is truly devoted he or she will find a way to get to know Mistress and express his dedication and passion for Her. You have to pay attention, learn to communicate with Her and You will find your way. whip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lashee Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 1. Be realistic. Stay alive. Be good to yourself and think about your limits, physical and emotional, for today and for the long haul. If you make a mistake about your limits, express them later. 2. Be playful. It's not all hard work. 3. Let things change over time. It happens and it's normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockme Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Dear Minni chan, do you remember our last session can you explain more. vehicle of expression to me . I can learn much from you.You are really very intelligent and mysterious John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Dear Minni chan, do you remember our last session can you explain more. vehicle of expression to me . I can learn much from you.You are really very intelligent and mysterious John Dear John, Vehicle of expression, hmm...I guess if you realize that you are most interested in the pain of humiliation and shame, then you may want to express that through understanding the weakest part of your ego. Let's say for example, you feel weakest about your fear of abandonment. Then the vehicle used to express that would be verbal; like your mistress may decide to threaten to leave you, ban you for a long period of time, deny you the opportunity to be in her presence. Or let's say it is a physical weakness, like testicle size. She may use ropes and clamps as her vehicle to stretch and pull and lengthen your testicles to the sufficient proportion. All fun and everyone is happy, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkdud Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Facinating discussion. Goddess Minnie, you are so generous and kind to your devotees. d/leatherwings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockme Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Minni Chan, THANK yOU FOR ANSWEING. YES THIS CAN BE FUN OR IT CAN BECOME A MENTAL TORMENT A REAL EMOTIONAL TORMENT . A FINE LINE MAY BE CROSSED . YOU MUST REALISE HOW POWERFUL A MISTRESS CAN BE. CERTAINLY A PROFESSIONAL DOM. IS PERFORMING TO PLEASE THE SUB. BUT THAT SUB. CAN ALSO DEVELOPE REAL FEELINGS FOR THE MIISTRESS. A PROBLEM FOR THE SUB. ONLY? OR ALSO FOR THE DOM.. i THINK ONCE THE MENTAL ASPECT IS INVOLED THIS CAN BECOME COMPLICATED.CAN YOU ELAORATE FURTHER? jOHN BRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Dear Minni Chan, THANK yOU FOR ANSWEING. YES THIS CAN BE FUN OR IT CAN BECOME A MENTAL TORMENT A REAL EMOTIONAL TORMENT . A FINE LINE MAY BE CROSSED . YOU MUST REALISE HOW POWERFUL A MISTRESS CAN BE. CERTAINLY A PROFESSIONAL DOM. IS PERFORMING TO PLEASE THE SUB. BUT THAT SUB. CAN ALSO DEVELOPE REAL FEELINGS FOR THE MIISTRESS. A PROBLEM FOR THE SUB. ONLY? OR ALSO FOR THE DOM.. i THINK ONCE THE MENTAL ASPECT IS INVOLED THIS CAN BECOME COMPLICATED.CAN YOU ELAORATE FURTHER? jOHN BRE Dearest John, It should be mutually agreed upon prior to the session that mental torment is part of the play. It is a place where fantasies can be enacted or even come true! What I mean to say is that it is edge play. There are risks involved in experimenting with electrical as there are risks in experimenting and exploring emotional/psychological torture. If you find that it has gone too far, emotionally, then you would need to use your safety word unlike the one you may use when the physical pain has surpassed your threshold. I don't mean to minimize mental torture. It does and can leave "marks" that don't go away after a few days. Your self awareness of mental and physical limits should be examined. Spend time with it. Limits are limits. Mistresses do not want to pass those limits as it would be no fun for either participant. The more a mistress knows about it beforehand, the less likely it will become a damaging experience. Debriefing after sessions is also beneficial to help transition from fantasy world back to the real world. Real feelings can develop but obviously stay on a professional level. Within the walls of the dungeon, there is a truth. Outside of those walls is a reality the Mistresses do not control. I hope that was helpful. It is a genuine belief of mine, as a mistress and as a person that trust and communication promote happy relations. 8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockme Posted July 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Dear Minni Chan, Thank you again for taking time to talk to me . you are quite knowledgeable. i realize your points. you are very powerful in your sessions and can have a big effect on a sub. i think a sub who truly developes feelings with a mistress is an exception and a loser for real that is what i see from your writings understand but being romantic imustnot give up his dream to be a slave and lover to his mistress.I understand the mental explanation and agree fully we didnot have that opportunity as you state it. I find you more and more amazing and the forum is lucky to have you . you are very intelligent and when you want an effective , sadistic mistress.Mental wantings and desires are developed from the sub perspective but they can be real and a problem for him.the fortress provides the stage and the mistress players are all good at it.Is it not possible for a mistress to know that a sub has real feelings for her and develop it ? Oh well i am what i am and continue to try until i can not any longer. I would like to see you again you are mysterious but yet fulfilling john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockme Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Derar Minni Chan , How can one please you in his desire to worship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 I guess you could easily get caught up with one of Mistresses, but realisticly its a role play service that you are paying for, a customer provider relationship. You have to know that once you're out the door the play ends, until you book another session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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